tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-40250219062002506.post2929573372855806930..comments2023-12-03T16:49:02.080+08:00Comments on THE RAMBLER: Poor Raffles Girls' School!Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-40250219062002506.post-10587149457668522672023-08-09T13:49:03.806+08:002023-08-09T13:49:03.806+08:00In response to the arguments presented in the arti...In response to the arguments presented in the article, it's worth acknowledging that creative works, whether anthems or literature, often draw inspiration from existing sources to create something new and meaningful. While you highlight concerns about potential plagiarism from Clydebank High School and inaccuracies in grammar and mythological references in the anthem, it's important to consider that artistic expression frequently involves the use of creative liberties. The use of language, including archaic forms like "ye," can add a touch of nostalgia and elegance to a composition, even if it might deviate from strict grammatical rules. Besides, both you and ye sound practically the same and you can’t hear the difference anyway. Furthermore, the interpretation of phrases like "the glory" and "heart to heart" can be multi-faceted, embracing symbolic and metaphorical meanings that contribute to the overall emotional resonance of the piece. In essence, artistic works prioritize conveying emotions, themes, and shared values over rigid adherence to conventions, making space for diverse perspectives and interpretations within the realm of creative expressionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-40250219062002506.post-22175885649211577512022-08-06T14:45:16.479+08:002022-08-06T14:45:16.479+08:00RGS most probably paid for that song.
why don'...RGS most probably paid for that song.<br /><br />why don't you just focus on your studies and not spend your fricking time commenting on other school's song?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-40250219062002506.post-62488029542642208762022-05-08T11:58:33.508+08:002022-05-08T11:58:33.508+08:00The objection is not vagueness. There is nothing w...The objection is not vagueness. There is nothing wrong with vagueness. My objection is purely grammatical. 'Glory' is one word that does not normally take the determiner or definite article 'the' unless it is followed by a complement. Just leave out 'the' if there is no complement. Hence, your last sentence should read '...if glory was flowing...'. TLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13777216835117522284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-40250219062002506.post-66538956480900654242022-05-07T23:07:33.849+08:002022-05-07T23:07:33.849+08:00Not from RGS but chanced upon this blog. My bigges...Not from RGS but chanced upon this blog. My biggest beef with the song is the phrase "here's luck to the start". It just doesn't fit well in a school song. A school song usually contains calls to action or sets out the aspirations of the school. Luck isn't really something to be mentioned.<br /><br />Regarding the term "the glory", its ok. It can be deliberately vague. Olympus is well-known as the home of the Greek gods. "the glory", in whatever form it takes, does not require further elaboration to appreciate the meaning of the phrase. (Of course, if the glory was flowing from the singapore river instead then I might be puzzled why this is the case)<br />Curious readernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-40250219062002506.post-46037767752827375082020-10-02T20:07:27.303+08:002020-10-02T20:07:27.303+08:00My dear Josephine,
You are indeed a woman of good...My dear Josephine, <br />You are indeed a woman of good taste and you recognise dross for what it is. It is a credit to the school that they had students such as yourself.TLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13777216835117522284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-40250219062002506.post-30199328540411918462020-09-25T00:24:35.541+08:002020-09-25T00:24:35.541+08:00Plagiarism or otherwise, I’m not bothered. What b...Plagiarism or otherwise, I’m not bothered. What bothered me most was the fact that it sounded pretentious and it made me wince each time we sang the song. Josephinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11711317022892113387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-40250219062002506.post-69358626021226216692017-01-04T15:29:47.839+08:002017-01-04T15:29:47.839+08:00I can't be faulted at all. First, I was perfec...I can't be faulted at all. First, I was perfectly correct to say that the lyrics show a severe deficiency in many different areas: grammar, the Classics, taste and elegance. But I did not know when I analysed this appalling song of RGS that the girls' school would stoop so low as to filch the song of a school for the children of miners in some far-flung moor in Scotland. I had thought the school would at least have a modicum of honour to write its own anthem or they might have taken a leaf from RI's book: RI's beautiful anthem was written by one of its headmasters. But I should have known that RGS was not fit to kneel down and tie the strap of RI's sandals. It didn't write its own anthem but shamelessly plagiarised it. And RGS does not even have the good sense to copy a more elegant song than the anthem of an unknown school for poor children. If RGS had been merely incompetent but honourable, it would have written its own anthem.<br /><br />My deduction that the anthem was written by a Chinese language teacher of the school was based on the assumption that RGS was dumb but honourable. Who else in RGS could have written a song that displayed such a marked level of illiteracy but a teacher who was not at home with the English language and Greek mythology? The brilliant sleuth in me tells me that on the balance of probability, the Chinese language teacher was the best bet. My reasoning was admirably flawless and worthy of praise from both Sherlock Holmes and Hercule Poirot. My only mistake was I credited RGS with an honour it didn't possess.<br /><br />The only complaint you can logically have to my analysis is that I placed too much faith in RGS as a school that would be honourable enough not to steal the song of another school. I confess I was wrong there. The implicit trust I had in RGS was misplaced. I didn't know plagiarism was what it was capable of. Of course as a former clucking hen of RGS, you must know what the school is capable of doing. But I'm an outsider whose chromosomes rebel against the singing of that awful song even if my good taste can tolerate it.TLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13777216835117522284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-40250219062002506.post-28223109323183485582017-01-03T21:17:50.117+08:002017-01-03T21:17:50.117+08:00Yes, you analysed the song so well that you though...Yes, you analysed the song so well that you thought it was written by a Chinese teacher Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-40250219062002506.post-27378672475180187652016-09-16T23:58:23.363+08:002016-09-16T23:58:23.363+08:00Whether RGS stole the lyrics and music of a song f...Whether RGS stole the lyrics and music of a song from a school or from a war hymn book makes no difference; It's still plagiarism. The second paragraph of your comment is totally irrelevant. I'm not a psychiatrist and I did not set out to examine why some girls can be drawn to a terrible song with embarrassing lyrics. That this song can have the effect of uniting RGS girls is not a phenomenon I bothered to consider. My intent was merely to examine the lyrics of the song and that was what I did in my previous blog post and this.<br /><br />You ask me if there is anything wrong with 'sisters in learning and sisters at heart'. I believe I examined that line in the earlier blog post, the link of which is given above. This is what I wrote:<br /><br />'Quite apart from all this, every line in the anthem is shockingly inelegant. The chorus, "Sisters in learning and sisters at heart / Life lies before us, here's luck to the start" is simply hideous and coarse and is really inconsistent with the kind of school RGS really is.'<br /><br />It's the incredible ugliness and inelegance of the lines that are jarring. There is one small point which I didn't elaborate in both blog posts which contributes to the general ugliness of the RGS anthem.<br /><br />'Sisters at heart' coming immediately after 'sisters in learning' is somewhat baffling. What can 'sisters at heart' mean here? 'At heart' really means 'in one's nature as opposed to what one appears to be'. A good example how that phrase may be used can be seen in this sentence (which I'm quoting from a dictionary): 'He was a strong and rugged elf who could often appear aggressive, but was truly kind and noble at heart'. In the RGS anthem, why would 'sisters at heart' appear immediately after 'sisters in learning'? It doesn't make sense at all. If the intention is to show that although the girls are all very different, they are essentially sisters at heart, then why on earth did 'sisters in learning' precede it? It appears to me that there was simply no thought given to the writing of the lyrics. The song writer threw in any phrase at random and just hoped that the girls would in their insane loyalty to the school overlook the sloppiness. Perhaps these lines would be neater:<br /><br />Some girls may stitch, some girls may bitch,<br />Every one of us may act like a tart;<br />Some girls may fight, and with all their might,<br />But we really are sisters at heart.<br /><br />If you have any influence with the school, perhaps you may want to get them to incorporate these lines in the school anthem. These four lines can be your refrain and they are certainly far more elegant and metrically sound than your current 'Sisters in learning and sisters at heart / Life lies before us, here's luck to the start.' And it won't be plagiarism because I give it freely to RGS. :)TLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13777216835117522284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-40250219062002506.post-6379522386393064272016-09-16T21:17:34.370+08:002016-09-16T21:17:34.370+08:00Hi,
Honestly I do think that RGS' school song...Hi,<br /><br />Honestly I do think that RGS' school song as some flaws too, but I just wanted to point out that we didnt plagiarise from the school that you mentioned but rather from a book of British Was hymns Unison (The name of the song is Unison). Also, just curious, but is there anything wrong with "sisters in learning, and sisters at heart?"<br /><br />Further than that, although the school song as some flaws, I think that the main point is that it has united batches and batches of RGS girls and it is the first new song that every RGS girl learns.<br /><br />Filiae Melioris Aevi.Elizabethhozxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03485325157350825118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-40250219062002506.post-19870385269795300142016-07-26T20:14:54.172+08:002016-07-26T20:14:54.172+08:00From my analysis of the song, it's indisputabl...From my analysis of the song, it's indisputable that RGS plagiarised the song from a school for the children of poor miners. Let's be clear here and not pretend the RGS song was taken from a general pool of songs sung by many people. It was plagiarised from a school for poor children. What you have quoted from the RGS History Book adds nothing to the argument. Everything I have said about the grammatical errors, poor syntax and a disgraceful lack of knowledge of Greek mythology stands.TLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13777216835117522284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-40250219062002506.post-73532082159124278412016-07-26T16:34:55.820+08:002016-07-26T16:34:55.820+08:00“The school song is the very first song a new pupi...“The school song is the very first song a new pupil learns when she steps into RGS. It was officially introduced in 1954, after Principal Miss Hinchliffe (principal from 1951 - 1956) commissioned Miss Goodland, the music teacher, to introduce a school song. Miss Goodland selected the song ‘From High Olympus’ from a songbook called ‘Unison’ (a collection of songs sung during the British colonial days). The people responsible for the lyrics and tune were Miss Florence Hoare and Miss H.L. Schnoor.” - From RGS History Book – Daughters of a Better Age 1844-2006Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-40250219062002506.post-44060726813538300532016-05-19T21:46:24.996+08:002016-05-19T21:46:24.996+08:00DumbbDumbbTLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13777216835117522284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-40250219062002506.post-34375171206817671072016-05-19T21:00:59.587+08:002016-05-19T21:00:59.587+08:00RoodRoodAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-40250219062002506.post-57997297560499352012016-01-29T20:12:47.098+08:002016-01-29T20:12:47.098+08:00Haha... xD Maybe rooster might fit :P jkHaha... xD Maybe rooster might fit :P jkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-40250219062002506.post-67684033966402734512016-01-24T23:36:58.471+08:002016-01-24T23:36:58.471+08:00I can't help it if people are so easily offend...I can't help it if people are so easily offended. We must all learn to look at the lighter side of life.TLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13777216835117522284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-40250219062002506.post-7319424129696446282016-01-24T23:35:30.036+08:002016-01-24T23:35:30.036+08:00The 'clucking hens' are the teachers of RG...The 'clucking hens' are the teachers of RGS - just a humorous way of referring to those strict, matronly teachers. I'm neither a woman nor a teacher and so, I can't be a clucking hen.TLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13777216835117522284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-40250219062002506.post-37356245611340262732016-01-24T17:17:45.247+08:002016-01-24T17:17:45.247+08:00Each school has its own song/anthem and it relates...Each school has its own song/anthem and it relates to the people in the school. I don't think there should be a ranking system for schools' anthem. If you were part of that school, or not, in any case you wouldn't need to antagonise people. Why so complain king? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-40250219062002506.post-77584691094711452882015-07-18T22:57:42.732+08:002015-07-18T22:57:42.732+08:00My dear Bridget,
I don't think I was rude in ...My dear Bridget,<br /><br />I don't think I was rude in any way. I slammed the RGS anthem and I backed up everything I said with clear facts and lucid reasoning. But RGS is a very good school and I expect those who defend the school anthem to show a higher level of cerebral prowess. As I have demonstrated from the above post, Caesium's response was not rational and it exhibited a kind of muddleheadedness that does not do justice to the education she should have received in RGS. If you consider that rude on my part, I apologise. But it would be fairer to your school if you were to direct your displeasure at Caesium for letting the school down, don't you think?TLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13777216835117522284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-40250219062002506.post-13487253780440455082015-07-18T21:53:27.329+08:002015-07-18T21:53:27.329+08:00bruh why you gotta be so rude
bruh why you gotta be so rude<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16790615075248846508noreply@blogger.com